Super Bowl II

Well the 1967 AFL/NFL replay is coming to a close with the Green Bay Packers and Oakland Raiders each winning their League Championships to face each other in Super Bowl II. This is the first season replay that I’ve completed were the Super Bowl participants were identical to real life. I will replay this game on Saturday, August 16th. Since I will be providing a “Play-by-Play” account of the game, I wanted to dedicate an entire day to it instead of breaking it up into multiple evenings.  

I make a conscious effort to represent the players and attitudes of the era accurately and responsibly during my replays. With that said, “NFL superiority” was an overwhelming attitude especially during the 1967 season. I normally do not share private messages but it’s a prime example of the attitude I was referencing. I hope that Mr. Vernon Kelly forgives me for betraying his confidence from our February 20th conversation.

Greg, Hello my name is Vernon Kelley. A skype APBA football friend , Jerry Zyjack, and I are presently playing an expanded playoff tournament (wildcard teams) with the 67 Zarb season. As you realize the AFL teams are rated quite high (Oakland 44/44 or somewhere close I don’t have the roster sheet in front of me). We were wondering if, when you reach the Super Bowl in your replay, you are planning to make any adjustments to the AFL teams off/def totals? Assuming the Packers played the Raiders we felt the Pack would be an underdog based on the team totals. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

My reply to Mr. Vernon Kelley was as follows:

It’s funny, because if you go to my site, you can read the recap of Super II that I played several years ago and the Raiders did win by a point…I don’t see anyone beating the Raiders in the AFL in my replay unless it’s the Jets with very hot dice…I don’t believe the Packers will win the NFL in my replay, it will most likely be either Baltimore or Los Angeles. But to answer your question, I will not make any changes to the team indexes. I grade each set that I use and wouldn’t want to skew my data. I understand your concern regarding NFL superiority; however, the AFL was closing that gap by 67, not quite equal but very close. Mark is a very close personal friend of mine and we have talked about this very subject before over dinner. His philosophy was league based, meaning he wasn’t concerned about comparing the two leagues but carding them only with regard to either the AFL or the NFL. With that said, the Raiders were 13-1 that year and quite possibly the best team ever to play in the AFL.

Over the past few months, Mark and I have discussed this very subject at great length. Realizing that I would not be able to use any innovations in the Super Bowl because they were league specific and to address the “NFL Superiority” issue, Mark decided to combine the two leagues and re-calculate team ratings and innovations. This is a very time-consuming task especially for ONE game!!! I’m very grateful to him for doing this for the replay.

The Green Bay Packers indexes and innovation ratings are as follows:

  • Offensive index: 41/39
  • Sack/Interception Rating: 0/+12
  • Penalty rating: 11-34
  • Kick Coverage: B
  • Punt Coverage: A

 The Oakland Raiders indexes and innovation ratings are as follows:

  • Offensive index: 43/43
  • Sack/Interception Rating: +21/+11
  • Penalty rating: 35-66
  • Kick Coverage: B+
  • Punt Coverage: B

Hopefully, you’re looking forward to reading the “Play-by-Play” account as much as I’m looking forward to providing it. Thanks for following along!!!

9 thoughts on “Super Bowl II

  1. I am envisioning a sloppy game; one in which both Lamonica and Starr get picked multiple times. I had no idea that Bart Starr’s stats that season were pretty bad; 17 picks to 9 TD passes. Lamonica threw a lot of TDs (30), but had 20 picks.

    This will be the Pickbowl.

    Unless Chuck Mercein pulls out a miracle; I’m going with the AFL’s Raiders in this one.

    The final:

    Oakland 27
    Green Bay 14

  2. Greg,
    Looking forward to the SBII! Am sure that it will be a lot of fun to play. I loved watching the old AFL. They had some really good teams and stacked up well against the NFL. Although I do NOT play APBA football I love following your replays. You bring the games to life! Continued success in your future endeavors. I will be following the 85 replay.

    Raiders – 31
    Packers – 21

    • Mike,

      I didn’t come up with the punt/kickoff “coverage” grades, these are an innovation created by Mark Zarb. Mark provided me with a separate chart broken down by letter grades (A+, A, B+, etc) per quarter and I refer to it. I love it because football consists of “three phases” and this innovation accounts for the third phase – “Special Teams”.

      • Sounds interesting. Is it a “secret” innovation? I have learned a lot about APBA football from you and I appreciate it. thanks.

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